If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame.

ccp has heard the cries of the highsec miner for help against suicide ganking, and has introduced the tornado

you can send flowers and thanks to their hq, i know I will be

Oh there will improvements. The new BC with better Large blasters on it..

This. Basically, it's a game of GÇ£keep the reticle within the circleGÇ¥ where the circle keeps shrinking as you suck up more ore, and the reticle keeps bouncing around, trying to get away from the centre of the circle.

Better mining drills gives you more control (by slowing the slippage down and/or by increasing your ability to push back). More valuable ores can be had by first stripping away the outer layers and then drill at the core, when the circle is at its absolute smallest.

I don't mine, but I don't see how a human element works in regards to the context of Eve. Even ratting or running missions is pretty much target, auto fire... rince, wash and repeat... Yes, you need to keep distance on harder rats, but if your a drone boat, you can just sit there and not even target if you don't want to direct the drones...

Well what we mine never hits the market,it ends up building crap down the road for my friends to waste..The problem is social..look what every Goon has been railing about for the last month..CCP has a mechanic in place to help the helpless,but every goon and his mother tries to work arounded what CCP intended..

Mining offenseave defensence or defence and yet all you hear are cries to even make them more helpless..CCP could do this..But you retards think all those statue shooter sub cancels were allot..The amout of production players that will bail will stagger this game..

- make belts so that you must scan them... i dont think botts can do scanning very well... (maybe add some more statics on scans too so that you must have brain to see its only static)
- static belts have only very small roids for new players... (strips dont have use if it)
- when you left scanned belt its gone... you must scan again...
- make roid stealing criminal act so you can shoot that person - botts dont see what roid you mine...
- make fleeting with other players and making real ops more rewarding then solo mining (orca boost better) - botts dont fleet

We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!

Boost rats!!!

Galaxy On Fire 2 - An App Store game that looks a ton better than eve... Shame its not MMO..or CCP would be losing a ton more subs

i love when ppl are against everything and for nothing...






not bad... :)
+1

Why not another ship from ORE with less mining yield but way more tank.

Or

Why not another ship from ORE with less mining yield but way more guns (minmatar style).

Or

Why not another ship from ORE with less mining yield but can escape quickly... (example blockaid runners)

If ORE was smart they would release ships to counter such pirate activity, such as the offensive vs defensive battle that always takes place in the weapons/armor race here in the real world.

Don't get me wrong bots and stupid miners should be ganked, but I feel ORE ships are so out classed that they need some love. This goes for all sections of mining ships from High->Low->Null.

Allow the Rorq, when commited put up a POS style shield around a small subset of mining roids/ice. Give the miners a chance to escape/reship to fight the attack? As it is now you see Rorq's sitting in POS shields.... just allows the Rorq's to be able to use those trackter beams.....

Mining is sucky, and needs some changes/love. Just saying.

this is a fantastic idea, I am serious,

make it able to claim asteroids belts, if someelse mines in your claimed area it is handled like thieving, giving you killing rights.

To make it a little bit more interesting put out three kinds of claim markers

personal marker - range 25 km, only personal killing rights

corp markers - range 50 km, gives killing rights to the whole corp

alliance markers - range 100 km, killing rights for the whole alliance


the ability to use these different markers is based on skills, maybe mining foreman. This could really shake things up, seriously shake it up....maybe so much that miners would actually go back to null, ah I am just dreaming, this is EVE and some people would find a way to abuse it :)

ok ppl... and where is, long time mentioned, comet mining???

I really like this thread.

Things I agree with strongly:

- make existing belts useful to only new players (civilian miner modules) and smaller
- make us scan for real belts
- make mining ships harder to gank. a 180m+ hulk should not be gankable by 4 alpha dessies in high sec
- put some higher level ores in mining missions
- i like the PI-like scanning mechanism. you could have a huge rock, but unless you scan it every once in awhile to see where you can extract stuff from it, you are extracting nothing and/or damaging your lasers
- put some small amounts of ABC into mining missions to make them more worthwhile. atm, they are painfully braindead

Some odd ideas:
1. Leave belts as they are in +0.7 to 1.0 systems as new players need to get their feet wet and learn the game some.
2. In all other systems, -1.0 all the way to +0.6 move all belts, including ICE to Grav sites that have to be scanned out daily.
3. in the +0.5 & 0.6 grav-belts, add cruiser sized rats, just to make it interesting.
4. Oh, and with the addition of the new Pocket Battleship class (Tier 3 BCs) add a significant buff to Exhumers HPs.

Reading through this thread it has struck me that there are many different suggestions for how to make mining more interactive, and even (god forbid) interesting.

I foresee two problems with this:

1. Miners don't actually want to interact with the game, they want to switch on their strip miners and then watch TV or read a book.
2. Mining ships are already easy targets for gankers, and if the player has to actually concentrate on the actual mining process they will be even easier targets.

I suggest that we need a bigger change if we want to eliminate bots and "fix" mining. I suggest that we get a new type of POS, a "Mining Platform". This structure would be broadly similar to a normal POS but can only be anchored in proximity to an asteroid belt. It can be fitted with a variety of different modules for mining, also for refining etc, and most importantly with shields and guns. Effectively, an all in one industrial platform for harvesting fixed belts. The player would just have to ensure it was regularly refueled and the finished products were regularly removed to keep it operational. It would be expensive to buy and fit, time consuming to keep it supplied, and there would only be one allowed per fixed belt, so competition would be fierce. War decs would be made to eliminate a competitors platform - mercs would be hired etc.

This would eliminate mining bots completely; it would allow the market to remain supplied with base minerals from a player driven source; and it would provide a reason for organised conflict throughout the EVE universe.

The guys who actually LIKE staring at rocks will be unhappy with this idea, but they will still be able to do their thing - just not in the static belts.

The guys who like suicide ganking miners will be unhappy with this idea, but they can still do their thing - they just have to look a bit harder for the targets. And who knows, they might see a mining POS as the ultimate suicide gank challenge.

i'd like to see comets that give all 4 types of isotopes not just the regional type.

i'd also like to see huge megaroids in deadspace where you can build and attach a mining colony to it......... it then stays attached for upto 30 days slowly mining away until the megaroid is depleted of all types of minerals.

It like the customs offices should be vunerable to attack from players and it would carry a reinforcement timer option too.

I have multiple miners and a Orca i control by myself without any bots or something, makes mining for me a challenge as i am actively checking my miners how full they are; played a long time ago in a 0.0 enviroment, and i find my current way of mining more active then ratting fof example.

As a normal person 5 miners are controlable within human boundries, (excl the Orca wich is number 6 but he doesnt need to do a lot.)

Everyone with more of those are either more superhuman then me or botters.

Just want to make clear that there are still people with multiple miners who are legit. ;)

Can we please get some CCP Dev word here???

you have never heard about recon ships haven't you?

Don't change mining, please. I will cry tears of hatred the day that mining changes in more than a minor way. I find it quite relaxing. Leave it alone.

EDIT: Yes, I realize many people find it extremely boring, and it's full of bots, but I don't want this to turn into Mission Running: Asteroid Mode. Mining ISN'T PvE. I don't want to have to be at the screen every single waking moment, at risk of losing my 200 million ISK ship, just because the way it is now is supposedly boring.

what about introducing a new tier of mining barges, barges that can carry in addition to their strip miners a medium array of weapons that give them about cruiser class firepower, coupled with a decent tank? Being more or less helpless against any possible ganker is what keeps many people from mining, especially in low sec.

So you want a game that you can play by not playing - staying AFK?

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Of course CCP won't change anything, since they make money out of boring people.

CCP don't give a damn about miners...
you see that they don't listen for years...
look at drone loot...
and now they buffed metal scrapes (volume only of 0.01 m3)
so they are more and more and more nerfing mining...
CCP is playing with miners nerves or wants to kill mining in eve...

The path its going now with constant nerfing and ignoring of all problems...
i must ask ccp something:

@ CCP
you want to remove mining from EVE???

I ask because i see that you are nerfing it for years and just giving other professions more and more minerals and making them easier to get to it...
About drone loot... are you laughing in miners face when doing all this to us... this "changes" are kick under the belt... like "we did something"...
And then this metal scraps buff... that's so low...

If you want to kill mining and remove it from game... just say it...
But in this conditions i demand my SP invested in mining back...